I feel sorry for Kelly in this story; she stuck her neck out to help someone, and it cost her her gender. I wonder if she'll ever find a way to get her womanhood back?
I also wonder about the protagonist, whether she was really transgendered all along, or if he changed for purely social reasons and will eventually regret becoming feminine?
Interesting caption, Rachel! You have a way of telling these stories from the perspective of the transformee that still raises questions even they might not be aware of.
I'm glad you enjoyed the story, and thank you for your kind comments. It's fair to say that Kelly will probably not be having a particularly nice time of it now. Maybe she will find a way back. As for whether our protagonist was 'really' transgendered... well, I'm not even sure if that's a meaningful question. In the Village (as outside!) gender exists in a complex network of power, control and ideology. Is it possible to separate one's true identity from these things?
I suppose knowing one's true identity is never a simple thing :) The Village seems to have a society that privileges women above men, much as our society privileges men above women. However, in our society, despite the social disadvantages that come with being female, few who are born female seek to become men. It's interesting that it seems ingrained in the men of the Village that they should try to become women.
If nothing else, Kelly's suggestion that the protagonist might not want to change his/her sex raises the possibility that not everyone selected for transformation into a girl is as willing.
The reason is that being a guy in our society has some serious drawbacks. You get punished harder, you're supposed to be an unshakable rock, you're required to earn the income to "be a man". Society puts an immense pressure on guys to perform the way society wants. Effectively guys are canon fodder. Either you're the best or no one will care if you perish. If you're victim to blatant sexism you can't complain, because you're a guy and "priviledged". Still nobody is really able to tell those priviledges beyond "being able to pee standing". A guy is not supposed to complain ever. This village sounds like the classic matriarchy with their need to lord about their superiority. I really hope there is some help for Kelly. Some way for her to escape this tyranny. If "he" actually escapes... I doubt he'll want to become a woman again for some time. I guess it might be a bit more complicated, but this sounds like guys are slaves and women are their mistresses. And they have no bloody economic reason to do something like that. I mean I can understand why they didn't educate women in the medival age. It wasn't for power reasons, but there was no real reason to teach people who'd be busy with caring for the children most of their lives stuff they'll never really be able to use anyway. Doesn't change the fact that most noble women were actually better educated than their men, but whatever...
Sorry for the ranting. Anyway, great caption, but the society behind this is spooky. I wonder why they're allowed to exist. It seems like there is an opposition. It even sounds like they're actually a freaky minority, so why are they allowed to do this crap to their children?
This was a very well done caption. It actually makes me want to know more about the story. Thank you very much for it, Beyogi
I guess what I'm trying to do is tweak some of the subtle variables and assumptions that we live with and are unaware of. Up until a few decades ago, it was assumed that a) Men were inherently superior to women, and b) that you can't change your sex. I wanted to explore what happened if you flipped both of these assumptions (and added a shovelful of creepy totalitarianism in for good measure). The village uses the soft pressure of public opinion to enforce it's gendered hierarchy, though if you step out of line, like Kelly did, then that pressure becomes a lot less soft. Gender and identity always exist within a social context, and perhaps the only way to see how our identities are shaped by our environment is to consider how other people's are shaped by their environment.
Beyogi - for what it's worth, here's a list of examples of male privilege: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ . Make of it what you will. Yeah, I'd agree that there's little or no economic reason for this kind of hierarchy/ social power system. But is there any real need for the social power systems that exist in our world either? I suspect part of the reason why we live in hierarchical/social control systems are down to a deep psychological need to dominate or be dominated. And I suspect the reasons for *that* have something to do with the tangled mess of gender and identity and sex and power which I try to explore in these captions and my stories. And as for why a society like this is allowed to exist, I imagine any society like this is going to be fairly short-lived... It may be that The Village is another Waco waiting to happen...
Ugh... I guess I'm a new generation or soemthing, but that privilege list is bullshit.
1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.
That is simply not true. So called "positive" discrimination runs rampant which means a guy doesn't need to apply if any half-way competent woman is also running for a job. Companies are scared shitless of quotas. Public service has a 70% womens quota and they still "prefer women with the same qualification." Aka men don't need to apply.
2. I can be confident that my co-workers won’t think I got my job because of my sex – even though that might be true. (More).
Well... obviously some women think because I have a penis I got the job. Thanks to male privilege. That's mostly bullshit obviously, but it also exists.
3. If I am never promoted, it’s not because of my sex.
Good joke. Men under 35 have almost 0 chance to get promoted at all if a woman is also running.
4. If I fail in my job or career, I can feel sure this won’t be seen as a black mark against my entire sex’s capabilities.
Depends on what job I do. Imagine what happens if I fail in a Kindergarten or a school... -> Men are incompetent with children.
5. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female co-workers are. (More).
I'm far less likely to get any help if I should dare to complain. Men are simply not believed or are "lucky" to have a female care for them or something.
6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.
Depends on who you ask. A normal person probably won't care. A male chauvinist will think that. A female chauvinist will think the reverse. Nowadays there are women who are incapable to work with men because they're that hate filled.
7. If I’m a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low. (More).
Wow... "if I'm a teen or adult female and don't dress slutty and go on parties my odds of being raped are relatively low." Seriously how bigoted can this list actually get? Btw. men are 70% of the victims of violence...
8. On average, I am taught to fear walking alone after dark in average public spaces much less than my female counterparts are.
That's actually true. I need to fear it more than a girl though. Nobody likes being beaten up and robbed by some hudlums...
9. If I choose not to have children, my masculinity will not be called into question.
People will assume I'm gay or sterile and thus not a real man.
10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.
Um... But if I don't slave to PROVIDE money and instead am a stay at home dad my masculinity is called into question. What would you prefer to do? Stay at home and care for children or do a 40-50 hours week?
11. If I have children and provide primary care for them, I’ll be praised for extraordinary parenting if I’m even marginally competent. (More).
So people simply assume I'm an incopetent buffon thanks to my gender and I'm supposed to be happy about it? "The negro can read and write? I didn't think half-apes were able to do that..." Seriously, whoever wrote that list isn't serious, are they?
12. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.
No but they'll think I'm a wimp, loser and selfish ass if I opt to stay at home as a stay-at-home dad.
13. If I seek political office, my relationship with my children, or who I hire to take care of them, will probably not be scrutinized by the press.
Probably not. On the other hand the press tries to make a scandal out of everything they can find so chances are they would if they find something remotely strange. Like having a transsexual nanny... but that's beside the point. I can actually concede that one.
14. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.
And? What benefit do I have from this fact? They're all women first white knights. If I have a male problem chances are I'm ignored. I'm not part of the acknowledged victim populace.
15. When I ask to see “the person in charge,” odds are I will face a person of my own sex. The higher-up in the organization the person is, the surer I can be.
Yeah... that's so much privilege for me if I'm someone low on the corporate ladder. If I was female I could try to use my sex appeal to manipulate them. Them being male is no benefit for me except if I happen to be buddies with them. Which is rather unusual the higher they are.
16. As a child, chances are I was encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters. (More).
As a child I got told that boys are stupid. Well by my teachers. My parents raised me and my sister gender neutrally.
17. As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own sex. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.
Um... and male protagonists aren't stereotyped? They are either white knight leaders, geeks, dummies or assholes.
18. As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often. (More).
Actually I didn't. The teachers wanted to encourage girls. On the other hand I'm against coeducation since it utterly sucks for boys. You get discriminated and they call it progress.
19. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether or not it has sexist overtones.
Um... yes I do? Or not, depends on how paranoid I am. The difference is guys usually try to ignore sexism why gals wallow in it or something.
20. I can turn on the television or glance at the front page of the newspaper and see people of my own sex widely represented.
*rolleyes* Seriously, when did they write this list? 1950? That's untrue for at least 30 years.
21. If I’m careless with my financial affairs it won’t be attributed to my sex.
How is this privilege? I will simply be called incompetent and deserving of my missfortune. If I was female people might actually be willing to help me. If anything this little bit of sexism is female privilege.
22. If I’m careless with my driving it won’t be attributed to my sex.
"If I get confused while telephoning, making my coffee, painting my fingernails and reading the newspaper at once it won't be attributed to my sex." that's gender stereotyping and also happens to men. Remember the men are too stupid to care for children thing?
23. I can speak in public to a large group without putting my sex on trial.
Outdated. There have been enough capable female public speakers nowadays. Women are worse demagogues, but that might be thanks to having a higher voice or something. This privilege is outdated and only shows how much the makers of this list stereotype.
24. Even if I sleep with a lot of women, there is no chance that I will be seriously labeled a “slut,” nor is there any male counterpart to “slut-bashing.” (More).
Actually there is. It's called "creep-shaming". Few guys actually label women sluts. The only time I've ever heard a guy use it outside of a "dirty-talking" situation was when he complained about his girlfriend being unfaithful. Sleeping around in a commited relationship deserves to be bashed imho.
25. I do not have to worry about the message my wardrobe sends about my sexual availability. (More).
I can not signal my sexual availability with my wardrobe. Used correctly this is obviously a gigantic advantage for women to manipulate men. No privilege at all.
26. My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring. (More).
*rolleyes* If I wear anything not boring I'm creep- or fag-shamed. Honestly that's not male privilege that's female choice or biology. Privileges aren't biological they're social. I admit it might be a problem in some occasions though, even if it does have advantages that male clothing doesn't have.
27. The grooming regimen expected of me is relatively cheap and consumes little time. (More).
Yeah... there has to be some advantage in being a guy. But honestly that's not privilege that's social convention and result of human sexuality.
28. If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car. (More).
I can't judge that since I never tried to buy a car, but it's obviously since they can get away with it. For some reason women are easier to use/dupe than men in some situations. Capitalism dictates that such weaknesses are to be used. It's not result of social privilege but something stemming from the economic system and biology.
29. If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore.
"If I'm not conventionally wealthy, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore." Honestly, men look for attractiveness in a partner, women look for economic security aka wealth, health and charisma. For most people it's easier to get beautiful than it is to get wealthy. Women -> hypergamy, men -> looking for beauty.
30. I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a bitch.
"I can be nice with no fear of being called a loser. I can be insecure without fear of being called a creep." The other side of the fence is always greener... There are probably better examples for the male side, but I guess you see what I mean.
31. I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)
They're joking right? It's a bloody lie that domestic violence happens more to women than to men. It's actually parity. It's an undeniable fact that more men are victim of violence than women. It's also a fact that there are violence against women action, but I've never seen one against "violence against men". Seems like typical feminist bigotry.
32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.
That's a particularity of the English language. That's no deliberate discrimination, but cultural oddity. Someone feeling discriminated by crap like this obviously has no problem at all.
33. My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.
Yeah, I don't get flooded with hormones that increase my agression once a month. That's biology, but maybe feminist could use their exxesive donations to pay someone to research into stopping the problem if it bothers them that much.
34. I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I don’t change my name.
*shrug* Honestly that's kinda outdated. People nowadays combine their last names into a new one which is rather cool imho. I have my mothers name for example. That's cultural practice and actually changing. Why do they whine about stuff that became outdated 30 years ago?
35. The decision to hire me will not be based on assumptions about whether or not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.
Actually that's changing. I'm from Germany and guys can take father time. The reaction is that companies now also discrimminate against guys. Scum.
36. Every major religion in the world is led primarily by people of my own sex. Even God, in most major religions, is pictured as male.
I'm an atheist, duh. How is this privilege? Nobody keeps you from praying to the spaghetti monster or whatever goddess you like. They're obviously running out of ideas if they are so lame.
37. Most major religions argue that I should be the head of my household, while my wife and children should be subservient to me.
Most religions reflect the social customs of the times when they began. If you actually feel bothered by that I'd say get some education. People should get equally respected for their live choices. Whether male, female or everything other.
38. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks. (More).
I think it's more like women want stuff cleaner than men and thus get to do it. On the other hand it's a mens job to solve the technical problems. And the actually dangerous stuff. That's a rather one sided view on the issue again.
39. If I have children with my girlfriend or wife, I can expect her to do most of the basic childcare such as changing diapers and feeding.
"... I have to expect to be excluded from most of the basic childcare..." Honestly that's like another argument from the middle of the last century.
40. If I have children with my wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.
That's because the male gender role requires the man to be the main bread earner. That's not exactly nice all the time either. I'd call the fact that a woman can obt out of a career like that a privilege too.
41. Assuming I am heterosexual, magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.
*shrug* Blame capitalism. "Assuming I'm female I can expect 80% of all sales area geared to my needs." There are equal female "privileges".
42. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. (More). If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than fat women do. (More).
A man has to be sucessful in business/his job. A woman has to be beautiful. Simple sexual attration again. It's not a privilege without a counter duty.
43. If I am heterosexual, it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever be beaten up by a spouse or lover. (More).
Haha... good joke. Actually I'm equally likely. Only lesbian lovers have more intimate violence than heterosexual pairs. http://tinyurl.com/yecz2cv the study or as an article: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-state-of-play-for-men-domestic-violence/
44. Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.” (More: 1 2).
I've never seen something like that. I guess maybe "complete strangers generally won't suddenly ask me for help with their heavy lifting" would be sort of the female equivalent privilege.
45. Sexual harassment on the street virtually never happens to me. I do not need to plot my movements through public space in order to avoid being sexually harassed, or to mitigate sexual harassment. (More.)
Someone telling you that you're beautiful isn't sexual harrasment. Stuff also happens to men, they usually just take it and don't complain about it since nobody will listen to them anyway. "Women don't need to cam single meetings with men out of fear of sexual harrasment lawsuits." That's actually worse than the "male privilege".
45. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.
"On average I'm not ignored by men as often as men are ignored ignored by women." Seriously that sentence doesn't make sense. They probably mean "as men are interrupted by women." That's probably an issue but easily solved by slightly using one's verbal ellbows. Simply getting louder can also help. Or using authority. It's just a fact that men interact differently among each other than with women. The reverse is also true.
46. I have the privilege of being unaware of my male privilege.
"I have the privilege of shaming/ignoring every male that mentions my own privileges and am entitled to ignore their problems." Honestly the last sentence shows how bigotted the persons are that wrote this list.
So I went through the whole thing. Some of these so called male privileges were actually male obligations or female privileges. Most of them were just total blindness towards the male side of the equation. The rest was simply outdated or used wrong data. The few privileges were I could concede a male advantages were either biological or so deeply intrenched into society that they might be as well biological. They missed "men can pee standing" though.
The problem is that they totally miss the male obligations that come with the so called privileges. That's the reason why so many guys are very bitter about feminism. Someone has summed it up well here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/an-open-letter-to-feminists/ It's a rebutal, but it explains the other side of male authority/privilege.
Sorry, I guess this got a bit out of hand ^^
" And as for why a society like this is allowed to exist, I imagine any society like this is going to be fairly short-lived... It may be that The Village is another Waco waiting to happen... "
What Waco? That doesn't tell me anything. Was that somekind of sect with a weird hierarchical system? I'm curious what is the setting of this story. An America of the future, or something else?
oh my how i too just long to be a real girl just to finally be all smooth soft and round like girl's are i want breast and a vagina pussy between my leg's i want to have periods pee sitting down to be able to get pregant and have babies of my very own
i just love the last caption where the now former boy is a naked girl i want to be able to be naked as a girl and to just look at my naked girlie body for hour's and to know yes yes yes i'm i'm a girlie!
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I feel sorry for Kelly in this story; she stuck her neck out to help someone, and it cost her her gender. I wonder if she'll ever find a way to get her womanhood back?
ReplyDeleteI also wonder about the protagonist, whether she was really transgendered all along, or if he changed for purely social reasons and will eventually regret becoming feminine?
Interesting caption, Rachel! You have a way of telling these stories from the perspective of the transformee that still raises questions even they might not be aware of.
I'm glad you enjoyed the story, and thank you for your kind comments.
ReplyDeleteIt's fair to say that Kelly will probably not be having a particularly nice time of it now. Maybe she will find a way back.
As for whether our protagonist was 'really' transgendered... well, I'm not even sure if that's a meaningful question. In the Village (as outside!) gender exists in a complex network of power, control and ideology. Is it possible to separate one's true identity from these things?
I suppose knowing one's true identity is never a simple thing :) The Village seems to have a society that privileges women above men, much as our society privileges men above women. However, in our society, despite the social disadvantages that come with being female, few who are born female seek to become men. It's interesting that it seems ingrained in the men of the Village that they should try to become women.
ReplyDeleteIf nothing else, Kelly's suggestion that the protagonist might not want to change his/her sex raises the possibility that not everyone selected for transformation into a girl is as willing.
Again, cool caption! I really enjoyed it!
The reason is that being a guy in our society has some serious drawbacks. You get punished harder, you're supposed to be an unshakable rock, you're required to earn the income to "be a man". Society puts an immense pressure on guys to perform the way society wants. Effectively guys are canon fodder. Either you're the best or no one will care if you perish. If you're victim to blatant sexism you can't complain, because you're a guy and "priviledged". Still nobody is really able to tell those priviledges beyond "being able to pee standing". A guy is not supposed to complain ever.
ReplyDeleteThis village sounds like the classic matriarchy with their need to lord about their superiority. I really hope there is some help for Kelly. Some way for her to escape this tyranny. If "he" actually escapes... I doubt he'll want to become a woman again for some time.
I guess it might be a bit more complicated, but this sounds like guys are slaves and women are their mistresses. And they have no bloody economic reason to do something like that. I mean I can understand why they didn't educate women in the medival age. It wasn't for power reasons, but there was no real reason to teach people who'd be busy with caring for the children most of their lives stuff they'll never really be able to use anyway. Doesn't change the fact that most noble women were actually better educated than their men, but whatever...
Sorry for the ranting. Anyway, great caption, but the society behind this is spooky. I wonder why they're allowed to exist. It seems like there is an opposition. It even sounds like they're actually a freaky minority, so why are they allowed to do this crap to their children?
This was a very well done caption. It actually makes me want to know more about the story. Thank you very much for it,
Beyogi
I guess what I'm trying to do is tweak some of the subtle variables and assumptions that we live with and are unaware of. Up until a few decades ago, it was assumed that a) Men were inherently superior to women, and b) that you can't change your sex. I wanted to explore what happened if you flipped both of these assumptions (and added a shovelful of creepy totalitarianism in for good measure). The village uses the soft pressure of public opinion to enforce it's gendered hierarchy, though if you step out of line, like Kelly did, then that pressure becomes a lot less soft. Gender and identity always exist within a social context, and perhaps the only way to see how our identities are shaped by our environment is to consider how other people's are shaped by their environment.
ReplyDeleteBeyogi - for what it's worth, here's a list of examples of male privilege: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/the-male-privilege-checklist/ . Make of it what you will.
Yeah, I'd agree that there's little or no economic reason for this kind of hierarchy/ social power system. But is there any real need for the social power systems that exist in our world either? I suspect part of the reason why we live in hierarchical/social control systems are down to a deep psychological need to dominate or be dominated. And I suspect the reasons for *that* have something to do with the tangled mess of gender and identity and sex and power which I try to explore in these captions and my stories.
And as for why a society like this is allowed to exist, I imagine any society like this is going to be fairly short-lived... It may be that The Village is another Waco waiting to happen...
Ugh... I guess I'm a new generation or soemthing, but that privilege list is bullshit.
ReplyDelete1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.
That is simply not true. So called "positive" discrimination runs rampant which means a guy doesn't need to apply if any half-way competent woman is also running for a job. Companies are scared shitless of quotas. Public service has a 70% womens quota and they still "prefer women with the same qualification." Aka men don't need to apply.
2. I can be confident that my co-workers won’t think I got my job because of my sex – even though that might be true. (More).
Well... obviously some women think because I have a penis I got the job. Thanks to male privilege. That's mostly bullshit obviously, but it also exists.
3. If I am never promoted, it’s not because of my sex.
Good joke. Men under 35 have almost 0 chance to get promoted at all if a woman is also running.
4. If I fail in my job or career, I can feel sure this won’t be seen as a black mark against my entire sex’s capabilities.
Depends on what job I do. Imagine what happens if I fail in a Kindergarten or a school... -> Men are incompetent with children.
5. I am far less likely to face sexual harassment at work than my female co-workers are. (More).
I'm far less likely to get any help if I should dare to complain. Men are simply not believed or are "lucky" to have a female care for them or something.
6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.
Depends on who you ask. A normal person probably won't care. A male chauvinist will think that. A female chauvinist will think the reverse. Nowadays there are women who are incapable to work with men because they're that hate filled.
7. If I’m a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low. (More).
Wow... "if I'm a teen or adult female and don't dress slutty and go on parties my odds of being raped are relatively low." Seriously how bigoted can this list actually get? Btw. men are 70% of the victims of violence...
8. On average, I am taught to fear walking alone after dark in average public spaces much less than my female counterparts are.
That's actually true. I need to fear it more than a girl though. Nobody likes being beaten up and robbed by some hudlums...
9. If I choose not to have children, my masculinity will not be called into question.
People will assume I'm gay or sterile and thus not a real man.
10. If I have children but do not provide primary care for them, my masculinity will not be called into question.
Um... But if I don't slave to PROVIDE money and instead am a stay at home dad my masculinity is called into question. What would you prefer to do? Stay at home and care for children or do a 40-50 hours week?
11. If I have children and provide primary care for them, I’ll be praised for extraordinary parenting if I’m even marginally competent. (More).
So people simply assume I'm an incopetent buffon thanks to my gender and I'm supposed to be happy about it? "The negro can read and write? I didn't think half-apes were able to do that..." Seriously, whoever wrote that list isn't serious, are they?
12. If I have children and a career, no one will think I’m selfish for not staying at home.
No but they'll think I'm a wimp, loser and selfish ass if I opt to stay at home as a stay-at-home dad.
13. If I seek political office, my relationship with my children, or who I hire to take care of them, will probably not be scrutinized by the press.
Probably not. On the other hand the press tries to make a scandal out of everything they can find so chances are they would if they find something remotely strange. Like having a transsexual nanny... but that's beside the point. I can actually concede that one.
ReplyDelete14. My elected representatives are mostly people of my own sex. The more prestigious and powerful the elected position, the more this is true.
And? What benefit do I have from this fact? They're all women first white knights. If I have a male problem chances are I'm ignored. I'm not part of the acknowledged victim populace.
15. When I ask to see “the person in charge,” odds are I will face a person of my own sex. The higher-up in the organization the person is, the surer I can be.
Yeah... that's so much privilege for me if I'm someone low on the corporate ladder. If I was female I could try to use my sex appeal to manipulate them. Them being male is no benefit for me except if I happen to be buddies with them. Which is rather unusual the higher they are.
16. As a child, chances are I was encouraged to be more active and outgoing than my sisters. (More).
As a child I got told that boys are stupid. Well by my teachers. My parents raised me and my sister gender neutrally.
17. As a child, I could choose from an almost infinite variety of children’s media featuring positive, active, non-stereotyped heroes of my own sex. I never had to look for it; male protagonists were (and are) the default.
Um... and male protagonists aren't stereotyped? They are either white knight leaders, geeks, dummies or assholes.
18. As a child, chances are I got more teacher attention than girls who raised their hands just as often. (More).
Actually I didn't. The teachers wanted to encourage girls. On the other hand I'm against coeducation since it utterly sucks for boys. You get discriminated and they call it progress.
19. If my day, week or year is going badly, I need not ask of each negative episode or situation whether or not it has sexist overtones.
Um... yes I do? Or not, depends on how paranoid I am. The difference is guys usually try to ignore sexism why gals wallow in it or something.
20. I can turn on the television or glance at the front page of the newspaper and see people of my own sex widely represented.
*rolleyes* Seriously, when did they write this list? 1950? That's untrue for at least 30 years.
21. If I’m careless with my financial affairs it won’t be attributed to my sex.
How is this privilege? I will simply be called incompetent and deserving of my missfortune. If I was female people might actually be willing to help me. If anything this little bit of sexism is female privilege.
22. If I’m careless with my driving it won’t be attributed to my sex.
"If I get confused while telephoning, making my coffee, painting my fingernails and reading the newspaper at once it won't be attributed to my sex." that's gender stereotyping and also happens to men. Remember the men are too stupid to care for children thing?
23. I can speak in public to a large group without putting my sex on trial.
Outdated. There have been enough capable female public speakers nowadays. Women are worse demagogues, but that might be thanks to having a higher voice or something. This privilege is outdated and only shows how much the makers of this list stereotype.
24. Even if I sleep with a lot of women, there is no chance that I will be seriously labeled a “slut,” nor is there any male counterpart to “slut-bashing.” (More).
Actually there is. It's called "creep-shaming". Few guys actually label women sluts. The only time I've ever heard a guy use it outside of a "dirty-talking" situation was when he complained about his girlfriend being unfaithful. Sleeping around in a commited relationship deserves to be bashed imho.
25. I do not have to worry about the message my wardrobe sends about my sexual availability. (More).
I can not signal my sexual availability with my wardrobe. Used correctly this is obviously a gigantic advantage for women to manipulate men. No privilege at all.
ReplyDelete26. My clothing is typically less expensive and better-constructed than women’s clothing for the same social status. While I have fewer options, my clothes will probably fit better than a woman’s without tailoring. (More).
*rolleyes* If I wear anything not boring I'm creep- or fag-shamed. Honestly that's not male privilege that's female choice or biology. Privileges aren't biological they're social. I admit it might be a problem in some occasions though, even if it does have advantages that male clothing doesn't have.
27. The grooming regimen expected of me is relatively cheap and consumes little time. (More).
Yeah... there has to be some advantage in being a guy. But honestly that's not privilege that's social convention and result of human sexuality.
28. If I buy a new car, chances are I’ll be offered a better price than a woman buying the same car. (More).
I can't judge that since I never tried to buy a car, but it's obviously since they can get away with it. For some reason women are easier to use/dupe than men in some situations. Capitalism dictates that such weaknesses are to be used. It's not result of social privilege but something stemming from the economic system and biology.
29. If I’m not conventionally attractive, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore.
"If I'm not conventionally wealthy, the disadvantages are relatively small and easy to ignore." Honestly, men look for attractiveness in a partner, women look for economic security aka wealth, health and charisma. For most people it's easier to get beautiful than it is to get wealthy. Women -> hypergamy, men -> looking for beauty.
30. I can be loud with no fear of being called a shrew. I can be aggressive with no fear of being called a bitch.
"I can be nice with no fear of being called a loser. I can be insecure without fear of being called a creep." The other side of the fence is always greener... There are probably better examples for the male side, but I guess you see what I mean.
31. I can ask for legal protection from violence that happens mostly to men without being seen as a selfish special interest, since that kind of violence is called “crime” and is a general social concern. (Violence that happens mostly to women is usually called “domestic violence” or “acquaintance rape,” and is seen as a special interest issue.)
They're joking right? It's a bloody lie that domestic violence happens more to women than to men. It's actually parity. It's an undeniable fact that more men are victim of violence than women. It's also a fact that there are violence against women action, but I've never seen one against "violence against men". Seems like typical feminist bigotry.
32. I can be confident that the ordinary language of day-to-day existence will always include my sex. “All men are created equal,” mailman, chairman, freshman, he.
That's a particularity of the English language. That's no deliberate discrimination, but cultural oddity. Someone feeling discriminated by crap like this obviously has no problem at all.
33. My ability to make important decisions and my capability in general will never be questioned depending on what time of the month it is.
Yeah, I don't get flooded with hormones that increase my agression once a month. That's biology, but maybe feminist could use their exxesive donations to pay someone to research into stopping the problem if it bothers them that much.
34. I will never be expected to change my name upon marriage or questioned if I don’t change my name.
*shrug* Honestly that's kinda outdated. People nowadays combine their last names into a new one which is rather cool imho. I have my mothers name for example. That's cultural practice and actually changing. Why do they whine about stuff that became outdated 30 years ago?
ReplyDelete35. The decision to hire me will not be based on assumptions about whether or not I might choose to have a family sometime soon.
Actually that's changing. I'm from Germany and guys can take father time. The reaction is that companies now also discrimminate against guys. Scum.
36. Every major religion in the world is led primarily by people of my own sex. Even God, in most major religions, is pictured as male.
I'm an atheist, duh. How is this privilege? Nobody keeps you from praying to the spaghetti monster or whatever goddess you like. They're obviously running out of ideas if they are so lame.
37. Most major religions argue that I should be the head of my household, while my wife and children should be subservient to me.
Most religions reflect the social customs of the times when they began. If you actually feel bothered by that I'd say get some education. People should get equally respected for their live choices. Whether male, female or everything other.
38. If I have a wife or live-in girlfriend, chances are we’ll divide up household chores so that she does most of the labor, and in particular the most repetitive and unrewarding tasks. (More).
I think it's more like women want stuff cleaner than men and thus get to do it. On the other hand it's a mens job to solve the technical problems. And the actually dangerous stuff. That's a rather one sided view on the issue again.
39. If I have children with my girlfriend or wife, I can expect her to do most of the basic childcare such as changing diapers and feeding.
"... I have to expect to be excluded from most of the basic childcare..." Honestly that's like another argument from the middle of the last century.
40. If I have children with my wife or girlfriend, and it turns out that one of us needs to make career sacrifices to raise the kids, chances are we’ll both assume the career sacrificed should be hers.
That's because the male gender role requires the man to be the main bread earner. That's not exactly nice all the time either. I'd call the fact that a woman can obt out of a career like that a privilege too.
41. Assuming I am heterosexual, magazines, billboards, television, movies, pornography, and virtually all of media is filled with images of scantily-clad women intended to appeal to me sexually. Such images of men exist, but are rarer.
*shrug* Blame capitalism. "Assuming I'm female I can expect 80% of all sales area geared to my needs." There are equal female "privileges".
ReplyDelete42. In general, I am under much less pressure to be thin than my female counterparts are. (More). If I am fat, I probably suffer fewer social and economic consequences for being fat than fat women do. (More).
A man has to be sucessful in business/his job. A woman has to be beautiful. Simple sexual attration again. It's not a privilege without a counter duty.
43. If I am heterosexual, it’s incredibly unlikely that I’ll ever be beaten up by a spouse or lover. (More).
Haha... good joke. Actually I'm equally likely. Only lesbian lovers have more intimate violence than heterosexual pairs. http://tinyurl.com/yecz2cv the study or as an article: http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/the-state-of-play-for-men-domestic-violence/
44. Complete strangers generally do not walk up to me on the street and tell me to “smile.” (More: 1 2).
I've never seen something like that. I guess maybe "complete strangers generally won't suddenly ask me for help with their heavy lifting" would be sort of the female equivalent privilege.
45. Sexual harassment on the street virtually never happens to me. I do not need to plot my movements through public space in order to avoid being sexually harassed, or to mitigate sexual harassment. (More.)
Someone telling you that you're beautiful isn't sexual harrasment. Stuff also happens to men, they usually just take it and don't complain about it since nobody will listen to them anyway. "Women don't need to cam single meetings with men out of fear of sexual harrasment lawsuits." That's actually worse than the "male privilege".
45. On average, I am not interrupted by women as often as women are interrupted by men.
"On average I'm not ignored by men as often as men are ignored ignored by women." Seriously that sentence doesn't make sense. They probably mean "as men are interrupted by women." That's probably an issue but easily solved by slightly using one's verbal ellbows. Simply getting louder can also help. Or using authority. It's just a fact that men interact differently among each other than with women. The reverse is also true.
46. I have the privilege of being unaware of my male privilege.
"I have the privilege of shaming/ignoring every male that mentions my own privileges and am entitled to ignore their problems." Honestly the last sentence shows how bigotted the persons are that wrote this list.
So I went through the whole thing. Some of these so called male privileges were actually male obligations or female privileges. Most of them were just total blindness towards the male side of the equation. The rest was simply outdated or used wrong data. The few privileges were I could concede a male advantages were either biological or so deeply intrenched into society that they might be as well biological. They missed "men can pee standing" though.
The problem is that they totally miss the male obligations that come with the so called privileges. That's the reason why so many guys are very bitter about feminism. Someone has summed it up well here: http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/an-open-letter-to-feminists/ It's a rebutal, but it explains the other side of male authority/privilege.
Sorry, I guess this got a bit out of hand ^^
" And as for why a society like this is allowed to exist, I imagine any society like this is going to be fairly short-lived... It may be that The Village is another Waco waiting to happen... "
What Waco? That doesn't tell me anything. Was that somekind of sect with a weird hierarchical system?
I'm curious what is the setting of this story. An America of the future, or something else?
oh my how i too just long to be a real girl just to finally be all smooth soft and round like girl's are i want breast and a vagina pussy between my leg's i want to have periods pee sitting down to be able to get pregant and have babies of my very own
ReplyDeletei just love the last caption where the now former boy is a naked girl i want to be able to be naked as a girl and to just look at my naked girlie body for hour's and to know yes yes yes i'm i'm a girlie!